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Theological whimsy, metaphysical larks, and other spiritually radioactive waste products.

Saturday, December 01, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-12-01

Genesis 19 - Total bleep-ing insanity! For my money this is the funniest thing I've seen in a while

Win Ben Stein's Credibility

Your favorite atheist (Sam Harris) in Rolling Stone

Best. Bible Verses. Ever. (#4 is my all time favorite)

Worst. Video Games. Ever.

Pope insists that being an atheist is totally uncool

Academic consideration of the role of the the FSM

Sunday School for Atheists

Micahel Behe (intelligent design advocate) interviewed by an atheist

Jesus loves Osama

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Saturday, November 17, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-11-17

A vote for Romney is a vote for Satan

This is the most awesomely manipulative thing I've ever seen/heard. Godtube really is the gift that keeps on giving

Jesus vs a dinosaur (based on a true story)

Vote for your favorite bible verse

The Economist on religion

Bad assed popes

The year of living biblically

Apparently God hates "God Hates Fags"

What would you do if your kids started believing in god behind your back?

Onward Science Soldiers

The Evolution of Creationism

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Sunday, October 28, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-10-28

Detailed stats on how many people believe the various bible stories

The BBC on the growing atheist movement in the US

Show that you are on the winning team

Bob Jones University dress code

A perhaps not entirely favorable review of "The Faith Equation" (part 1, part 2)

What Atheist kids can watch on a lazy Sunday (Go snow bears!)

I'm high on Jesus dude

"if there's one thing that the Lord enjoys more than making free booze at wedding parties, it is killing."

Foreskin's Lament

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Saturday, October 20, 2007

One small favor...

Dear Jesus,

Unfortunately all this prosperity you've given me (happy, healthy family, well paying, interesting work and the rest) is seriously interfering with my belief in you. In fact at this rate I'm pretty sure I'm going to hell. I mean, sure I pay my taxes, am generally honest and almost never stomp on kittens, but I know that I deserve eternal torment for not believing in you. Perhaps you could do me a solid. I've noticed that a lot of people get cancer or suffer some other horrible tragedy and then come to believe in you and have their faith strengthened. So what are you waiting for? Please sock it to me (and my family). You decide what it will take to get my faith in the right place and unleash with abandon.

Thanks,

evtujo

PS. And make it nasty. I tend to be a slow learner.

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Sunday, October 07, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-10-07

Mathematical proof

Sam Harris: don't call me an atheist

The logical path from religion to evil deeds

Christianity's image problem

Jesus may love you but is he willing to share?

Jesus was a party animal

The archbishop and the condom

Chick tracts explains: What really happened to the dinosaurs

How to believe in god in 6 easy steps

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Wednesday, June 13, 2007

The End of Faith

I've owned the End of Faith for quite a while but I figured since I have limited time and I've seen most of Sam's online debates and read most of his online essays that there wasn't much point in reading this book. Life is too short to sit in the choir and be preached to. Well I recently discovered the time saving world of audio books and I decided to listen to the book while I did dishes and other puttering.

HOLY CRAP is this book good. This man can write. Not only are his examples and logical flow crisp and tight, he really has a way with words. I wish I *had* been reading the book so I could have underlined choice turns of phrase.

But I do know that I will be reading (or listening) to this book again. I get a little nervous in my old age when I can't find *any* logical flaw in an argument or I agree completely on every page. It's always possible that he is simply a very smart and persuasive man with whom I should agree on every point. Or maybe I'm just easily led to any conclusion. In any case it will be enjoyable to review this book in the near future and see how it survives a more skeptical pass. Anyway, 2 enthusiastic horns of Satan up for this book.

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Sunday, April 29, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-04-29

Mr Bean, welcomes you to hell

And the winner of the least-vigorous-defender-of-theism award goes to: Bill O'Reilly

Christian kids seem so well behaved, the Rastafarian's kids seem so mellow and the Pastafarians seems so well fed

Dammit! Turkey beat us again

Learn to swear like a Bible prophet

But Hitler was evil, he must have been atheist

Neurotheology

The "God Machine"

Militant atheism call to arms by pastor Dawkins

I'm pretty sure there is no belief I wouldn't cheerfully renounce under the threat of molten metal

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Sunday, April 22, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-04-22

National Geographic presents: Jesus and Friends

Mystical warrior (chi) vs real warrior (fists): Who will win?

Can you feel the spirit? (It's a loooong build up, but I think its worth the wait)

You knew it was coming: The devil made him do it

Christianity synopsis (not safe for the squeamish)

Save me o lord from this beautiful day in the park

Learn the tricks of the trade from a lifelong evangelist

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Sunday, April 15, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-04-15

Deny Jebus and forget about Christmas!

The devil hates them and so do I

The church of Darwin

Who knew the Treaty of Tripoli was so interesting? See article 11

Atheism *is* a religion. How did I ever miss this before?

This just in: God is a rage-oholic!

It's time to ask the fossils what they think

Einstein's God

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Thursday, April 12, 2007

The "New Atheism" from the perspective of Christian radio

As I've mentioned before I have a strange fascination with Christian media, in particular with Christian news radio shows. On my way home from work today I caught a bit of a segment on "The New Atheism". If nothing else it's fun to hear the commentator quote Dawkins at length. Tee hee!

Prime Time Live (starts at 1h31m).

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Tuesday, February 06, 2007

Are you an atheist?

Take my quiz to find out:

Am I An Atheist?

I did pretty good!
You are 100% atheist!
 

Hooray you are an atheist with respect to most or all gods. Good work. Hope you aren't disbelieving in the wrong one...

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Sunday, January 21, 2007

Infidel Links - 2007-01-21

Hilarity, thy name is Mr Deity:
http://www.mrdeity.com/

Metaphors in the Bible:
http://russellsteapot.com/images/rsgallery/original/000100000.jpg

Apparently, women *aren't* property (who knew?):
...sam_harris/2007/01/women_are_property_1.html

Intelligent Design zoo:
http://www.myconfinedspace.com/watermark.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2006/12/creationism.jpg

Steven Weinberg is the man!
http://tls.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25349-2552017.html

we have the fossils:
http://www.stampandshout.com/shop/bumper-stickers/we-have-fossils.php

This guy wins the preaching to the choir award every time. But he still cracks me up.
http://www.godisimaginary.com/video10.htm

The best way to get theology is from dinosaurs. But a close second is from legos:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/index.html

WWJP (what would Jesus poop)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15689591/

The joy of "X":
http://www.nysun.com/article/46707

With a catchy tune like this how can you not believe....?
http://richarddawkins.net/article,521,n,n

skeptical suckers! (oops)
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/07-01-17.html

Be a monster, you know you wanna!
http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive2007/01-03-07.asp

God, Inc.
http://richarddawkins.net/article,549,n,n

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Friday, January 19, 2007

God Hacks




  • Foreword (by Pope Benedict XVI and Brian Flemming)
  • Preface
  • Contents
  • God basics
    • Why "god hacks"?
    • Minimal system requirements
    • Determining which god is right for you
    • Turning off the nagging voice of doubt
    • Care and Feeding of your god
  • Understanding your owner's manual
    • Stop laughing, it's all true.
    • Quick overview of how we got here and what we are supposed to do now.
    • Contradiction Harmonization: it's all too crazy *not* to be true.
    • Navigating the silicon age with the wisdom of the iron age.
  • Installation, Upgrades, Fix packs, Uninstalls
    • How do I install a deity ("Getting saved")?
    • How do I upgrade up to the "next level"?
    • How do I uninstall my deity ("Apostasy")?
  • Communication Hacks
    • One-way asynchronous mode ("prayer")
    • Troubleshooting the "Deity Not Found" response.
    • Avoiding ironic answers to prayer.
    • Discriminating between hearing God's voice and "those crazy voices"
    • Classical interpretation techniques: tea leaves, entrails, and you
  • Divine Wrath: Avoidance and Responses
    • Is it wrath or just random?
    • Diagnosing the reason for the wrath
    • Efficient, results-based grovelling
  • Keeping the Commandments:
    • If it feels good: Stop!
    • Killing infidels
    • Sharing the Joy: Mind virus transmission techniques
  • Afterlife hacks
    • Performing a vice/virtue audit for estimating your current eternal reward status
    • Work arounds for predestination
    • Asbestos underwear: preparing for worst case scenarios.
  • Financial Considerations
    • Calculating your ideal tithing rate to maximize ROI.
    • Determining the most cost efficient religion for you
    • Starting your own religion for fun and (mostly) profit.
  • Hacking Theological puzzles
    • How to interpret God's silence as proof of his existence
    • How to use the concept of freewill to explain away god's non-interference policy
    • Putting God in the gaps and keeping him there.
  • Reboots, System Recovery
    • Sin (understanding the point system)
    • Forgiveness
    • So you've traded your soul for a fiddle....
  • Troubleshooting
    • Your options when god breaks his promise
    • Help, my god is commanding me to _____. (Dealing with unreasonable requests)
  • Advanced Hacks
    • Making your own god from scratch
    • Becoming a god your self (apotheosis)
    • Removing the "god virus" from yourself and others

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Thursday, January 11, 2007

You say Jeremiah, I say Zechariah, let's call the whole thing off

Some aspects of Bible apologetics really impress me in a way. Just when I think I have found the killer, no possible response passage, they come up with some plausible explanation. Of course, it's just a matter of showing that something isn't *necessarily* a contradiction, rather than showing it's definitely *not* a contradiction. Not convincing to me personally, but I must tip my hat to their inventiveness. Of course some apologetics is so bad that it seems to require an apology itself. I recently came across this gem from the grand master himself, Augustine. The passage below refers to an apparent error in Matthew that *seems* to be attributing a passage to the wrong book of the Old Testament:

http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/judas.html#otmistake


St. Augustine in his work De Consensu Evang (III 7) said that Matthew knew very well that the sentence came from Zechariah, but he also knew that he was writing at the dictation of the Holy Spirit, and he dared not take the liberty of correcting it. And why did the Holy Spirit dictate an inaccuracy? To show that all the prophets were equally inspired and that it did not matter whether what was said by one was ascribed to another!!


I think the nuttiness of this sort of thinking doesn't require comment, but one thing about this does sort of encourage me. No serious apologist would present this sort of argument these days. So that's some progress...

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Monday, January 08, 2007

The after life: now with hot and cold running virgins

I'm always looking at how to fast track my way to heaven. Not believing in heaven makes this pretty hard, but I like a challenge. On that vein I've been pondering the glorious route of the suicide bomber and his 70 virgins awaiting him in the afterlife. There are a number of things that puzzle me about this scheme, I must admit. Instant access to heaven seems pretty cool, but what's up with the 70 virgins? I guess if you are a virgin junky that sounds pretty cool at first, but think about it: you have to make these nubile love slaves last for eternity. And they'll only be virgins once. So you'd really need to pace yourself. Maybe dip into the virgin pool once every 1000 years. But even at that pace you'd run through your virgins in a relative blink of an eye and have nothing but non-virgins for the rest of eternity. So caveat emptor I guess.

But more importantly seems like you could do a lot better than 70 virgins. Really I think you'd want 70 highly trained call girls. Something like a spaceship full of Inara's from Firefly. Wouldn't that be a much better reward than a bunch of inexperienced virgins?

I wonder where these virgins come from? Are they just young girls who died on earth and now are in the afterlife servicing strangers? That would be some eternal reward. Good job on getting to heaven now hop on this bed while this stranger rapes you for eternity. Or does god handcraft the virgins from scratch? Do they have souls, freewill? Do they get to choose which suicide bomber they get enslaved to?

Almost makes you wonder if this view of heaven was designed by men for men. Of course if Aristotle was correct that women are deformed men without souls, then it's really no big deal.

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Friday, January 05, 2007

Quotes from "A Brief History of Disbelief"

A number of interesting quotes from historical figures pass by during Jonathan Miller's "Brief History of Disbelief" (google video). I wanted to review some of the more interesting one's and I ended up collecting most of them. When I had compiled most of these I found that another partial list had already been completed (link)

In most cases I've tried to find the original sources for these quotes so you may find that these are slightly different or expanded from those shown in the series. Probably the most interesting fact is that most of the early presidents of the US wouldn't be elected in this day and age if they expressed their beliefs in public.




All your Western theologies, the whole mythology of them, are based on
the concept of God as a senile delinquent and, by God, I will not and
cannot continue to conduct services in praise and worship of this,
this... this... yeah, this angry, petulant old man.

-- Tennessee Williams


I do not believe in any revealed religion. I will have nothing to do
with your immortality; we are miserable enough in this life, without
the absurdity of speculating upon another.

-- Lord Byron

By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none.

-- Charlie Chaplin

No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God

-- George Bush (Sr.)

God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy
is got rid of, there never will be any liberal science in the world.

-- John Adams

The clergy...believe that any portion of power confided to me [as
President] will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they
believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal
hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this
is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion

-- Thomas Jefferson

I have seldom met an intelligent person whose views were not narrowed
and distorted by religion.

-- James Buchanan

My earlier views at the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of
salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer
and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I
shall ever change them

-- Abraham Lincoln

The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the
absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.

-- Havelock Ellis

Surely you don’t believe in the gods. What’s your argument? Where’s
your proof?

-- Aristophanes


Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent.
Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent.
Is God both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

-- Epicurus

Why should I fear death? If I am, death is not. If death is, I am
not. Why should I fear that which can only exist when I do not?

-- Epicurus


Long time men lay oppressed with slavish fear, religion's tyranny did
domineer. At length a mighty one of Greece began to assert the liberty
of man.

-- Lucretius

Fear is the mother of all gods.

Nature does all things spontaneously, by herself, without the meddling
of the gods.

-- Lucretius

A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to
religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a
ruler who they consider god fearing and pious. On the other hand, they
less easily move against him, believing he has the gods on his side.

-- Aristotle

In this subject of the nature of the gods the first question is: do
the gods exist or do they not? It is difficult, you will say, to deny
that they exist. I would agree, if we were arguing the matter in a
public assembly, but in a private discussion of this kind it is
perfectly easy to do so.

-- Cicero

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
false, and by the rulers as useful.

-- Seneca


I don't see any god up here.

-- Yuri Gagarin


There is in every village a torch: The School teacher.

And an extinguisher: The Priest.

-- Victor Hugo


In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the
humble reasoning of a single individual.

-- Galileo

To command the professors of astronomy to confute their own
observations is to enjoin an impossibility, for it is to command them
not to see what they do see, and not to understand what they do
understand, and to find what they do not discover.

-- Galileo


With our contentions their irreligious humour is much strengthened
- nothing pleaseth them better than these manifold oppositions upon
the matter of religion

- Richard Hooker

Christ is not God, not the saviour of the world, but a mere man, a
sinful man and an abominable idol. All who worship him are abominable
idolaters and Christ did not rise again from death to life nor did he
ascend into heaven.

-- Matthew Hammond


a person who does not believe the existence of a Deity. Many people,
both ancient and modern, have pretended to atheism, or have been
reckoned atheists by the world; but it is justly questioned whether
any man seriously adopted such a principle. These pretensions,
therefore, must be founded on pride or affectation.

-- Encyclopedia Britannica

Tis very questionable there ever was such a monster in nature as a
serious atheist who lived and died so, in the clear exercise of his
reason and senses

-- Thomas Curteis

An atheist is I think impossible, most who would be thought atheists
are so out of indolence, because they will not give themselves time to
reason

-- The London Magazine

All Religions have this in common, that they are an outrage to common
sense for they are pieced together out of a variety of elements, some
of which seem so unworthy, sordid and at odds with man’s reason, that
any strong and vigorous intelligence laughs at them

-- Puerre Charron



Religion is a Common Notion; no period or nation is without
religion. We have, then, to search for what is by universal consent
acknowledged in religion and compare these universal principles with
each other; and what is universally acclaimed as religious truth must
be recognised as Common Notions. Such a proceeding may be deemed
laborious, but there is no other way by which the truths of Common
Notions can be ascertained. I value them, however, so highly that I
think it is only in them that the inner counsels of divine wisdom can
be understood.

-- Lord Herbert of Cherbury

There is a supreme being. This sovereign power is to be worshipped.
Common consent ordains this though men differ as to the means, and
this has always been believed that all vices and crimes should be
expiated and effaced by repentance.

-- Lord Herbert of Cherbury


The universe, the whole mass of things that are, is corporeal, that is
to say, body, and hath the dimensions of magnitude, length, breadth
and depth. Every part of the universe is 'body' and that which is
not 'body' is no part of the universe, and because the universe is
all, that which is no part of it is nothing, and consequently nowhere.

-- Thomas Hobbes


Not one English infidel in a hundred is any other than a Hobbist,
which I know to be rank atheism.

-- Richard Bentley

Civilization will not attain perfection until the last stone from the
last church falls on the last priest.

-- Emile Zola


Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night
God said: "Let Newton be!" and all was light.

-- Alexander Pope


It is therefore the third sort of atheists only (namely those who in
the way of speculative reasoning, and upon the principles of
philosophy, pretend that the arguments brought against the being or
attributes of God, do, upon the strictest and fullest examination,
appear to them to be more strong and conclusive, than those by which
these great truths are attempted to be proved;) these, I say, are the
only atheistical persons to whom my present discourse can be supposed
to be directed, or indeed who are capable of being reasoned with at
all.

-- Samuel Clarke


what would he have said, if he had known the
late discoveries in anatomy and physic, the circulation of the blood,
the exact structure of the heart and brain, the uses of numberless
glands and valves for the secretion and motion of the juices in the
body, besides several veins and other vessels and receptacles not at
all known, or so much as imagined to have any existence in his days;
but which now are discovered to serve the wisest and most exquisite
ends imaginable!

-- Samuel Clarke


So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in
praise of intelligence.

-- Bertrand Russell


Upon the whole, I have always considered him, both in his lifetime and
since his death, as approaching as nearly to the idea of a perfectly
wise and virtuous man, as perhaps the nature of human frailty will
permit.

-- Adam Smith

Generally speaking, the errors in religion are dangerous; those in
philosophy only ridiculous.

-- David Hume


His power we allow infinite: Whatever he wills is executed: But
neither man nor any other animal are happy: Therefore he does not will
their happiness. His wisdom is infinite: He is never mistaken in
choosing the means to any end: But the course of nature tends not to
human or animal felicity: Therefore it is not established for that
purpose. Through the whole compass of human knowledge, there are no
inferences more certain and infallible than these. In what respect,
then, do his benevolence and mercy resemble the benevolence and mercy
of men?

Epicurus’s old questions are yet unanswered. Is he willing to prevent
evil, but not able? then is he impotent. Is he able, but not willing?
then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? whence then is
evil?

-- David Hume

No-one I am confident will ever mistake my intentions. No-one has a
deeper sense of religion or pays more profound admiration to the
supreme being.

-- David Hume


If we go back to the beginning we shall find that ignorance and fear
created the gods; that fancy, enthusiasm, or deceit adorned or
disfigured them; that weakness worships them; that credulity preserves
them, and that custom, respect and tyranny support them in order to
make the blindness of men serve its own interests.

If the ignorance of nature gave birth to gods, the knowledge of nature
is calculated to destroy them.

-- Baron d'Holbach

Religion has ever filled the mind of man with darkness, and kept him
in ignorance of his real duties and true interest. It is only by
dispelling the clouds and phantoms of Religion, that we shall discover
Truth, Reason, and Morality. Religion diverts us from the causes of
evils, and from the remedies which nature prescribes; far from curing,
it only aggravates, multiplies, and perpetuates them. Let us observe
with the celebrated Lord Bolingbroke, that 'theology is the box of
Pandora; and if it is impossible to shut it, it is at least useful to
inform men that this fatal box is open.

-- Baron d'Holbach

Every other species of tyranny is limited to the world we live in; but religious tyranny attempts to stride beyond the grave, and seeks to pursue us into eternity.

-- Tom Paine

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear
to me to be no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind,
and monopolize power and profit.

-- Thomas Paine

Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistant that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel.

-- Thomas Paine

The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion. It has been the most destructive to the peace of man since man began to exist. Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses, who gave an order to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and then rape the daughters. One of the most horrible atrocities found in the literature of any nation. I would not dishonor my Creator's name by attaching it to this filthy book.

-- Thomas Paine

Thomas Paine needs no monument made by hands. He has erected a monument in the hearts of all lovers of liberty.

-- Andrew Jackson

Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.

-- Napoleon Bonaparte

If he is infinitely good, what reason should we have to fear him? If he is infinitely wise, why should we have doubts concerning our future? If he knows all, why warn him of our needs and fatigue him with our prayers? If he is everywhere, why erect temples to him? If he is just, why fear that he will punish the creatures that he has filled with weaknesses? If grace does everything for them, what reason would he have for recompensing them? If he is all-powerful, how offend him, how resist him? If he is reasonable, how can he be angry at the blind, to whom he has given the liberty of being unreasonable? If he is immovable, by what right do we pretend to make him change his decrees? If he is inconceivable, why occupy ourselves with him? IF HE HAS SPOKEN, WHY IS THE UNIVERSE NOT CONVINCED? If the knowledge of a God is the most necessary, why is it not the most evident and the clearest.

-- Percy Bysshe Shelley

I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and as I should wish to do, evidence of design and beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice.

-- Charles Darwin

Was it through his grandmother or his grandfather that he was descended from a monkey?

-- Samuel Wilberforce

...Tis is the crown and glory of organic science that it does through final cause, link material and moral... You have ignored this link; and, if I do not mistake your meaning, you have done your best in one or two pregnant cases to break it. Were it possible (which, thank God, it is not) to break it, humanity, in my mind, would suffer a damage that might brutalize it, and sink the human race into a lower grade of degradation than any into which it has fallen since its written records tell us of its history... Passages in your book, like that to which I have alluded (and there are others almost as bad), greatly shocked my moral taste...

-- Adam Sedgwick

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one .

-- George Bernard Shaw

The psychoanalysis of individual human beings, however, teaches us with quite special insistence that the god of each of them is formed in the likeness of his father, that his personal relation to God depends on his relation to his father in the flesh and oscillates and changes along with that relation, and that at bottom God is nothing other than an exalted father.

-- Sigmund Freud

Our knowledge of the historical worth of certain religious doctrines increases our respect for them, but does not invalidate our proposal that they should cease to be put forward as the reasons for the precepts of civilization. On the contrary! Those historical residues have helped us to view religious teachings, as it were, as neurotic relics, and we may now argue that the time has probably come, as it does in an analytic treatment, for replacing the effects of repression by the results of the rational operation of the intellect.

-- Sigmund Freud

Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.

-- Karl Marx

I'm a good husband, I work hard, and I love my kids...why should I spend half my Sunday hearing that I'm just going to hell anyway?

-- Homer Simpson

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Wednesday, December 06, 2006

Christianity as Conspiracy Theory

I have an off and on interest in various conspiracy theories. I think it comes from an interest in pseudoscience in general and how the mind works. Clearly there is something strange going on in the brain of someone who claims that the moon landing was faked. What's interesting about even one of the crazier conspiracy theories like this is that if you don't know much about space history and just listen to the case presented by moon landing deniers they can make a pretty compelling case. (If you look closely at some of the moon landing photos you can see the prop numbers. It's clearly a movie set!). There are a number of small facts and lines of reasoning which when combined clearly show we never went to the moon.

I'm not sure what drives these people. Perhaps they project their own inability to fly to the moon and assume no one else would be capable of it. Maybe some people are just contrary. Or maybe they like the feeling of being special; that they see something that others can't, a deep truth that others are blind to.

As I've been reacquainting myself with Christian apologetics and ID theory in the last year or so I've slowly come to the conclusion that Christianity (in particular the variety practiced by evangelicals and other literalists) is a close relative of the conspiracy theory genre. As I read early dater's theories about Daniel I get a whiff of the same sort of connect the sparse dot thinking. With Intelligent Design you have conspiracy theory out in full force. The vast majority of PhDs in biology, genetics, geology, paleontology, and information theory have been brainwashed into buying the lies of a superpowerful evolutionist cabal. Only the select few have been able to resist this brainwashing and are desperately trying to get the truth out. In both cases it's glaringly obvious to the casual observer that one side had made their minds up on the conclusions before even showing up to the discussion.

And the funny thing is I have a certain respect for those that will at least admit that. Clearly if the creator of the universe informed you that something is the case (bible is 100% true and evolution is wrong) then any apparent contradictions with your theory are just that, apparent. Unfortunately in both of these issues the proponents of literalism and ID have learned that people in general aren't very convinced if you admit you already knew the answer before even investigating the issue and that nothing could change your mind. It's just not a very convincing persuasion technique. That's why you find claims of people who were atheists and read the bible and then believed. Or people who were evolutionists and then really studied the issues and were swayed by ID (though in both cases there are a lot more going in the opposite direction). It's actually very comforting that this sort of persuasion is necessary. It means that people are becoming more resistant to argument from authority and at least want *some* evidence (however flimsy) that a given set of beliefs are based on facts.

One of the big open questions for me is whether a conspiracy theorist can ever change their mind. Is there a certain age after which it's impossible? If you do change is the resulting pain too much to ask of a person? Another interesting question is whether there is a certain psychological profile that is susceptible to these sorts of arguments. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a battery of tests you could give someone that would indicate whether they are likely to fall for a conspiracy theory. They could then bar these people from running for office or getting jobs as teachers.

I guess my main interest in studying religion (and Xian apologetics in particular) and looking at pseudoscience (and ID in particular) is that it forces me to really examine my beliefs and how I arrived at them. It's also good practice for when you hear someone spouting off some talking points for a bad opinion. There is often a gap between our ability to recognize BS and out ability to satisfactorily counter it in real time in conversation. So even though this little hobby of mine eats up time I could be sleeping or making money, it's both entertaining enough in itself (I've become rabidly interested in the history of Mesopotamia from about 2000 BC to year zero) and the exercise of critical thinking is just a great skill in all parts of my life.

But you are probably asking how I can be so sure that I know Christianity is a conspiracy theory and ID is not the victim of a vast campaign to hide the truth. How do I know? The voice in my head tells me it's true. The voice is never wrong. Only my interpretation is sometimes wrong. Now it is telling me that I need some chocolate right now. All praise be to the all powerful and knowing voice in my head.

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Sunday, December 03, 2006

Infidel Links

I damn you to HELL!
http://www.youaredamned.com/

Non-belief, the universal language:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/12/sunday_funnies.php

Another chick.com tribute
http://www.christonthecrapper.com/sacrilege/mbih/

Deity post purchase comment card:
http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~ebeach/deity.html

Sam Harris, my favorite "angry" atheist debates some nut via email:
http://www.jewcy.com/dialogue/monday_why_are_atheists_so_angry_sam_harris

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Thursday, November 30, 2006

Infidel Links

Evolution has been banned in Kansas. Not the teaching of, mind you, the actual process of:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55807

The "god who wasn't there" (60 min documentary)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7498241687701731240

Religion pie chart:
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Returning to Wal-marts Biblical roots:
http://www.evangelicalright.com/2006/11/thousands_of_evangelicals_rall.html

Even some evangelicals get tired of hearing about gay sex and abortion:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2006-11-28-christian-coalition_x.htm

How could I have been so wrong? The real root of terrorism is [drum roll]:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/11/22/115532.shtml?s=ic

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Sunday, November 26, 2006

Infidel Links

Bible stories the way god intended them to be told:
http://www.alltruebible.com/index.html
(for a good example go to genesis and look for Dinah's viginity)

Science and Religion free for all
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/21/science/21belief.html?ex=1321765200&en=1248e2f606e1e138
(see video clips here: http://beyondbelief2006.org/)

A few little stocking stuffers:
http://www.mcphee.com/categories/christianity.html

We're never going to catch up at this rate:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15701301/site/newsweek/page/1/

It was only a matter of time until someone started going door to door:
http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=185806

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